I always ponder a lot of lists before an event, like most people do ...
Current guard list ponderation =
Straken + 2 Bodyguards + Medic + Carapace + Standard + Astropath + Chimera w/ Dozer, Hull Heavy Flamer - 355
Veterans w/ Harker, 3 Meltaguns, Shotguns, Chimera w/ Dozer, Hull Heavy Flamer - 220
Veterans w/ 3 Meltaguns, Shotguns, Chimera w/ Hull Heavy Flamer - 155
Veterans w/ 3 Meltaguns, Shotguns, Chimera w/ Hull Heavy Flamer - 155
Veterans w/ 3 Meltaguns, Shotguns, Chimera w/ Hull Heavy Flamer - 155
Veterans w/ 3 Meltaguns, Shotguns, Chimera w/ Hull Heavy Flamer - 155
Platoon Command Squad w/ Al'Rahem, 2 Meltas, 2 Flamers, Chimera w/ Hull Heavy Flamer - 185
Infantry Squad w/ Meltagun, Chimera w/ Hull Heavy Flamer - 115
Infantry Squad w/ Meltagun, Chimera w/ Hull Heavy Flamer - 115
Vendetta - 130
Vendetta - 130
Vendetta - 130
Harker gives added flexibility, both defensively (potential to infiltrate as scout prevention, scoring, stealth, heavy bolter to give some use in backfield, etc.) and offensively (highly reliable anti-armor / anti-infantry outflanking unit independent from Al'Rahem and still scoring, with good value in Quarters).
Dozers will be more useful in an event which will likely be [even] more terrain heavy than before. I could alternately drop the dozers and the pair of flamers on al'rahem to pick up some sort of additional thing at 30 points (additional advisor in straken's squad for more wound allocation, demolitions for harker or another unit, power weapons in various places ... um ... RATLINGS!).
Like most lists I build, it's intended to compete, hang in there, and be involved in the late-game for the win in all occasions.
i quite like this list, but that is a lot of points spent on characters and practically zero ranged antitank (vendettas dont count, they will die or be suppressed nearly all the time).
ReplyDeletei dont understand why people dont put autocannons in their meltavet squads. for ten points you have the option of staying still and shooting for a few turns before counterattacking (against some lists) and the missed opportunity cost isnt high if you do move.
There's nothing there I don't like BUT you only deploy 3 birds and 6 hulls...it feels light.
ReplyDeleteLike the list; I've been thinking of playing with Harker as well. Umm... I count 9 hulls. I think that in the terrain heavy environment that Mike anticipates (along with Mike's play-style) that AC's would be wasted.
ReplyDeleteWhat Hudson says. This is last year's BFS-winning list with the subtraction of the now-illegal Grey Knight Brother Captain w/ Hood, and the addition of Harker and some dozer blades, plus 2 flamers on Al'Rahem's dudes.
ReplyDeleteI don't think that Straken synergizes all that well with veterans. You're not really going to have the body count to survive an assault with this force mix. A cheaper CCS and a few more models might be worth considering.
ReplyDelete@Hudson - Al'Rahem's hulls may not deploy.
ReplyDelete@TKE - Ah, DEPLOYED being the keyword. Got it.
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