tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post6323919094982320189..comments2024-03-17T01:39:05.808-07:00Comments on Whiskey & 40k: Final Leans and Thoughts - Army Construction Rulings for GT/InvitationalMike Brandt; mvbrandt@gmailhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00818846784767602047noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-23665635217844442882014-06-20T05:36:52.155-07:002014-06-20T05:36:52.155-07:00Don't get me wrong, I'm still going and I&...Don't get me wrong, I'm still going and I'm still going to have a good time.Craig Valvanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03396759882574284834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-76442555697209090882014-06-19T15:18:12.963-07:002014-06-19T15:18:12.963-07:00When is the game NOT outdated from codex perspecti...When is the game NOT outdated from codex perspective, when are we in the "full swing" of an edition? <br /><br />6th edition didn't even quite make it 2 years! More like 18 months, if you ask me, as everything was completely different come the "December to remember"Prometheushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13501001236011802285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-67627110207937061112014-06-19T13:18:15.222-07:002014-06-19T13:18:15.222-07:00Speak of the devil!
Speak of the devil!<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04556379562391396704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-15194607623095148352014-06-19T11:33:30.023-07:002014-06-19T11:33:30.023-07:00Check most recent post!Check most recent post!Mike Brandt; mvbrandt@gmailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818846784767602047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-69331424100670713602014-06-19T11:13:33.070-07:002014-06-19T11:13:33.070-07:00Any clue what your rulings on fortifications will ...Any clue what your rulings on fortifications will be Mike? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04556379562391396704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-88114567575021615422014-06-19T11:03:58.997-07:002014-06-19T11:03:58.997-07:00And I accept your boo with great regret that GW le...And I accept your boo with great regret that GW left us with no clear way to effectively satisfy every single possible attendee. We'll continue to do our best, however!Mike Brandt; mvbrandt@gmailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818846784767602047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-32445383076437657202014-06-19T10:50:41.474-07:002014-06-19T10:50:41.474-07:00I boo this Lords of War decision. They are largely...I boo this Lords of War decision. They are largely no more broken than 900 points in other slots.Craig Valvanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03396759882574284834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-40070092759730658472014-06-19T10:26:49.991-07:002014-06-19T10:26:49.991-07:00It's a feasibility argument. I don't think...It's a feasibility argument. I don't think there's a broad advocacy that Superheavies, for instance, are a problem. There IS a broad and (IMO) accurate advocacy that there are numerous individual Superheavies or Gargantuans that are MAJOR problems (i.e., the C'Tran).<br /><br />Selectively targeting certain items within a subset of units and creating complex ban and allow lists is something you want to do as little as possible (i.e., fortifications), so rather than selectively say "XYZ units from Escalation are OK and ABC aren't" ... we just said basically no Escalation.<br /><br />The Knights are not really problematic within the framework of the game, in the same way that a Baneblade or similar isn't, but whereas the Baneblade comes from a unit selection spread that includes numerous problems, the Knights do not.<br /><br />We see Lords of War and Knights as Apples and Oranges.<br /><br />With regard to the Ork Codex issue, we are unlikely to change our position based upon that, just sharing that we're not going to be head in the sand about the changing climes of the game either. I foresee even these org structure rulings changing over the next year, and the next post should clarify that - these are early 7th rules, not "forever rules." They reflect a manner for organizers to address the game as it stands today, primarily out-dated form a codex:edition perspective, and not necessarily fully ready for the full monty of the edition; that may not still be the case a year from now (or we may be looking at yet another new edition, at which point I think a riot would be in order).Mike Brandt; mvbrandt@gmailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818846784767602047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-48217870646133325712014-06-19T10:15:16.913-07:002014-06-19T10:15:16.913-07:00I really don't see why lords of war should, or...I really don't see why lords of war should, or should not be allowed based upon whether or not the Ork Codex has one. That's just letting GW have it's way -- they are writing rules specifically to push models, and there's no reason to go along with it.<br /><br />Same as I don't see any reason to allow Knight Titans ... I'm not really swayed by them being a codex, and that somehow matters. Prometheushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13501001236011802285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-82877374388313482492014-06-19T10:02:50.277-07:002014-06-19T10:02:50.277-07:00Why would summoned daemons not count yet spawned t...Why would summoned daemons not count yet spawned termagaunt do? That doesn't make any sense.<br /><br />What about summoned daemons from a portylglyph?Dave the Mac Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09702498373945754652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-47586757007841917852014-06-19T07:25:09.949-07:002014-06-19T07:25:09.949-07:00Great, thanks.Great, thanks.Bodilesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18075982622472828512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-64482556921847835012014-06-19T07:22:56.686-07:002014-06-19T07:22:56.686-07:00That rule only applies to conjured units.That rule only applies to conjured units.Mike Brandt; mvbrandt@gmailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818846784767602047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-86935213837844906402014-06-19T07:14:07.545-07:002014-06-19T07:14:07.545-07:00I don't have the relevant language in front of...I don't have the relevant language in front of me, so I will ask. Do spawned Termagaunts fall under the conjured rules, or are they part of the same detachment as the spawning Tervigon?Bodilesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18075982622472828512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-82117359383806846752014-06-18T21:02:53.757-07:002014-06-18T21:02:53.757-07:00While I agree with the whole faction/detachment ch...While I agree with the whole faction/detachment chosing unit thing, I guess I just want to clarify. At least for tau I see no point, sure I can pick from both, but I cannot benefit from both. If it is a farsight detachment, the faq says the farsight rules apply to a farsight detachment, and they prohibit using Empire detachment rules. So I could pick a commander from Empire, but farsight detachment rules specifically state he cannot use Empire relics if he is in the detachment, regardless of if he is from farsight or not.<br />The faction ruling for them do ensure that markerlights and such work cross suppliment now. Which is a nice clarification.TheGraveMindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202256201375802641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-9357332965642434632014-06-18T19:42:37.250-07:002014-06-18T19:42:37.250-07:00If conjured demons are not part of your army, what...If conjured demons are not part of your army, what army are they? Does this mean I can essential get more grimores/portalglyphs?Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260451855001533307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-23798978865139817092014-06-18T16:09:47.625-07:002014-06-18T16:09:47.625-07:00So, can Space Marine chapters ally with themselves...So, can Space Marine chapters ally with themselves? E.g. a Smurf CAD AND a Smurf allied detachment?Gornallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13033702961765246406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-72486068308151335402014-06-18T14:30:24.216-07:002014-06-18T14:30:24.216-07:00You could have a Scion formation with an ally deta...You could have a Scion formation with an ally detachment; the only thing prohibited from being your Primary Detachment AFAIK is an Allied Detachment, which explicitly is not permitted to be Primary.Mike Brandt; mvbrandt@gmailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818846784767602047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-8080179416110148292014-06-18T14:28:48.337-07:002014-06-18T14:28:48.337-07:00So do formations count as "primary" deta...So do formations count as "primary" detachments or are they still in that limbo like knights or inquisition? Could I have a CAD from the Scion codex and then take a Scion formation? Or maybe have a Scion formation with an ally detachment?EMDEEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16824875304105730209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-9405770569962235252014-06-18T13:41:54.926-07:002014-06-18T13:41:54.926-07:00Woops, good catch :)Woops, good catch :)Mike Brandt; mvbrandt@gmailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818846784767602047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-8352301008361484092014-06-18T13:33:28.742-07:002014-06-18T13:33:28.742-07:00"Finally, we are not restricting or modifying..."Finally, we are not restricting or modifying the Allied Detachment rules in any respect, which means you can neither select an Allied Detachment from the same faction as your Primary Detachment, nor "<br /><br />seems to contradict <br /><br />"To remedy this in simplicity, we're removing the same-Faction restriction on Allies. This creates a more normalized environment from a fun/build perspective for non-Imperials without introducing the full on crazy represented by mass spam of Combined Arms Detachments, "<br /><br />Hudsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09254648458761984561noreply@blogger.com