tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post7673719892965865187..comments2024-03-17T01:39:05.808-07:00Comments on Whiskey & 40k: Army Lists, and a Re-Blog - Competitive vs. Casual, the Endless DebateMike Brandt; mvbrandt@gmailhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00818846784767602047noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-80445875788229917272013-10-28T23:21:54.465-07:002013-10-28T23:21:54.465-07:00Want sickly sweet, try Hornsby's Cider. Wow, ...Want sickly sweet, try Hornsby's Cider. Wow, bad. I've had both Weyerbacher's and Shafly's. They just brew all around excellent stuff. Southern Tier has... slipped. For a good coffee stout, try Dominion's Morning Glory. Plus, gotta love that label art.<br /><br />Well, if you enjoy the play, that is what matters. We don't do this as a chore ;) But y'know, it ain't like marriage (Marriage is cheaper) you <i>can</i> play other games. And should. Everybody should. IMHO. Variety is a good thing. <br /><br />Douchecannon. Ugh, what an image. <br />G Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00180174897038108755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-41457765564927071642013-10-28T08:53:59.749-07:002013-10-28T08:53:59.749-07:00Where differences exist, everything is classifiabl...Where differences exist, everything is classifiable. Doesn't mean it's always appropriate to do so. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11680110160882762433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-32625837709489914722013-10-28T08:01:24.372-07:002013-10-28T08:01:24.372-07:00Geoff,
Rumors of my cynical demise are far exagge...Geoff,<br /><br />Rumors of my cynical demise are far exaggerated :)<br /><br />I still love playing the game of 40k, and do so regularly. I simply have my issues on occasion w/ the internets, where in all games and spheres of interest there are trolls, flamers and general douchecanoes.<br /><br />The Fear is good, btw; Weyerbacher's Imperial and Schlafly continue to be the best of the high test IMO. Uinta's low-test Punkin is amazing, but gone for the year. <br /><br />Finally, people who like the sickly sweet crap that is Southern Tier's Pumpking ... ugh.Mike Brandt; mvbrandt@gmailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818846784767602047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-19706701276186203652013-10-28T07:59:18.615-07:002013-10-28T07:59:18.615-07:00:)
Class-less ... Without class ...
Or ... not...:) <br /><br />Class-less ... Without class ... <br /><br />Or ... not classifiable<br /><br />One thing I can't help but agree on ... Tabletop Miniature Wargaming has become incredibly expensive; also, third party and competing companies practically rejoice in GW price increases, b/c it lets them raise theirs to silly levels ALSO, so long as they are "not quite as expensive as GW." The same is true for boutique model producers who make "Better than GW" models ... and are able to increase their prices to always be slightly higher than the competition they claim their superiority over.Mike Brandt; mvbrandt@gmailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818846784767602047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-59193109874609469562013-10-28T07:55:12.362-07:002013-10-28T07:55:12.362-07:00Casual and competitive are inaccurate labels for t...Casual and competitive are inaccurate labels for the differences between players...but when riptides cost $85 each, our community is in no way classless. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11680110160882762433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-69227144802644441552013-10-25T21:24:40.841-07:002013-10-25T21:24:40.841-07:00Semantics-Why all the arguments over competitive o...Semantics-Why all the arguments over competitive or not? I would assume you understand what the word competitive means..... Which is simply put "strive to gain or win something by defeating or establishing superiority over others who are trying to do the same." How is any game not competitive? I guess the definition of a game which is "a form of play or sport, esp. a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck." doesn't really apply to your interpretation of what a game is. <br /><br />The simple fact is that games are designed to be won. I am not sure if I have ever heard of a game that was designed to end in a tie..... still thinking..chutes and ladders, stratego, chess, poker, Settlers of Catan,nope. Can't find one. <br /><br />So maybe the issue is that people don't like losing and have to find an excuse as to why they lost. Therefore, claiming that it isn't fair that Johnny brought a bigger bat, or has a better car, or is naturally stronger, etc. Maybe all the complaining about why 40k isn't competitive is really just some men's way of not feeling like they are big enough in a certain area of their lives..... <br /><br />Either way, games are meant to be fun. They are meant to have a winner and a loser. We shouldn't get upset when we lose but we do. I do. But I don't whine about it and pout in a corner and then blame everyone else for my shortcomings. But misery loves company. <br /><br />I admit, I am competitive. I also like long walks on the beach, action movies.....<br /><br />There is my $1.47Spaguatyrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09459803772469387289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-62539204270455393552013-10-25T18:42:31.091-07:002013-10-25T18:42:31.091-07:0040k is not,nor has it ever been, competitive. It ...40k is <i>not</i>,nor has it ever been, competitive. It is a game of chance -- all that dice rolling-- and thus a contest, not a competition*. Any talk of "competitive 40k" is risible. And I think this whole divide only exists in the GW gaming community. I certainly do not see it elsewhere. (I could be wrong) Other than that, what Lost Cateran said make perfect sense.<br /><br />A short while ago, a mutual friend of ours remarked that he hadn't checked out your blog is ages. It occurred to me that I had not either. So, I decided to give it a look, only to find you complaining about the state of 40k; then again, complaining about something at the BfS, and now this.<br /><br />Normally, you are very optimistic, perhaps too optimistic-- that whole 'Reality Distortion Field' thing ;) I joked about-- but I don't see it in these posts. Gaming should be fun, an uplift, and certainly not a source for complaints-- especially the same ones, ad infinitum :S<br /><br />Why do this to yourself? Climb over the wall. Get out of the Nottingham Gaol and explore the gaming world. We are in a golden age of gaming, and you punish yourself by dwelling in the warped and barren dimension that is GW gaming. There is so much available that is fun and challenging and.. wait for it... <i>affordable </i>.<br /><br />My 2 Cents. NNTR.<br /><br />Oh, and you must try The Fear, Flying Dog Brewery's Imperial Pumpkin Ale. Awetastic! Now gotta get a hold of some Pumpkinator <br />...<br /><br />Kim Jong-Un is to basketball what his father was to golf.<br /><br />*Oddly though we say pissing contest when we should say pissing competition. Idioms, go figure. G Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00180174897038108755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-88784909966270195702013-10-25T17:26:42.103-07:002013-10-25T17:26:42.103-07:00Some people play to win, and some people play to p...Some people play to win, and some people play to play. I'm not seeing the problem with giving those two different groups of people names.Benjaminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00245451939976361103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-2143295179879663852013-10-25T10:56:48.341-07:002013-10-25T10:56:48.341-07:00I think better descriptors are "Narrative&quo...I think better descriptors are "Narrative" players and "Mechanical" players. Mechanical players focus primarily on the mechanics of the game, and that is central to their enjoyment of the hobby. It is about how to win, or playing the game in the way they want to. Conversely, "narrative" players care about the storyline and the fluff associated with the game, and their armies in particular. The mechanics of the game are necessary abstractions for the purposes of telling a story, rather than the focus of their hobby.<br /><br />Can a player be both? Absolutely. It's a spectrum. Very few are extreme players on either side, in my experience. But the further one is to one side or the other, the less they are able to understand the motivations of players on the other side of the spectrum. You can have civil and polite players of both flavors, and you can have mean, nasty and bigoted players of both flavors.Lost Cateranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12184783857223398865noreply@blogger.com