tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post560449384814846083..comments2024-03-17T01:39:05.808-07:00Comments on Whiskey & 40k: New FAQ's, NOVA Results, and Upcoming EventsMike Brandt; mvbrandt@gmailhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00818846784767602047noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-22132930315223717822013-03-19T06:45:03.790-07:002013-03-19T06:45:03.790-07:00Home windows seven Dwelling Primary: The house Bas...Home windows seven Dwelling Primary: The house Basic version is accessible in rising marketplaces, for example Brazil, China <a href="http://www.windowsanyway.com/windows-7-ultimate-product-key-p-3528.html" rel="nofollow">windows 7 ultimate product key</a>, India, Mexico, Pakistan and Thailand. Aero choices and several other new characteristics are not incorporated within this version.windows anytime upgrade keyhttp://www.windowsanyway.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-38594554695533904112012-09-11T15:19:29.412-07:002012-09-11T15:19:29.412-07:00Tempest's Wrath is different from Njall's ...Tempest's Wrath is different from Njall's Lord of Tempest ability.Vadenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16174143413070839225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-41679985959450497992012-09-10T07:20:33.899-07:002012-09-10T07:20:33.899-07:00You never know, maybe they'll even release a f...You never know, maybe they'll even release a faq before the event next year, maybe. A lot can happen in a year, or not, hahahaha.Bahzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07969293532432790662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-51775536685882968812012-09-09T16:58:20.467-07:002012-09-09T16:58:20.467-07:00To Mike and Team: Kudos! You guys put on another g...To Mike and Team: Kudos! You guys put on another great event. I'll see you next year with a new army! (or sooner if you hit the replacement springfield store)John Stieninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01860350974000948346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-4931036307386710932012-09-09T15:40:22.038-07:002012-09-09T15:40:22.038-07:00I vote we ban anyone who has ever made a mistake p...I vote we ban anyone who has ever made a mistake playing warhammer 40k for life, so we may always have perfect games... but who will i play? wait! will i get banned myself?Pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15033875920115128291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-14053307391544037672012-09-09T07:58:34.321-07:002012-09-09T07:58:34.321-07:00I might actually be more in agreement w/ the Njal/...I might actually be more in agreement w/ the Njal/Imotek/etc. affected by this than not. Fortunately, a year to decide (heh)Mike Brandt; mvbrandt@gmailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818846784767602047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-22537697714274377882012-09-08T14:03:04.823-07:002012-09-08T14:03:04.823-07:00That anon comment was me, didn't mean for it t...That anon comment was me, didn't mean for it to sound rude if it does, I was going for sarcastic funny, lol.<br /><br />Anyway, fair example; this is exactly the like Dooms "it's an effect" arguement and we all know the answer to that. <br /><br />Again, Purg is right. Wanting Njal to break the rules is wishful thinking. Nice try though. Amoung other things, he can't snap shoot it, he's done.<br /><br />There isn't much more to it.Bahzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07969293532432790662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-22338299982833145802012-09-08T13:42:57.366-07:002012-09-08T13:42:57.366-07:00Hey look! It's the Doom of Malantai "It&#...Hey look! It's the Doom of Malantai "It's an effect" arguement again, I wonder how that turned out?<br /><br />Purg is/will be right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-23793840532832519422012-09-08T09:43:17.216-07:002012-09-08T09:43:17.216-07:00It's fruitless to argue about whether somethin...It's fruitless to argue about whether something is an "attack" or not when the term "attack" as it is used in this FAQ entry is not defined anywhere in the rules. GW is notorious for using imprecise language and using various terms interchangeably. <br /><br />On top of that, Purgatus is correct in his argument that the "attack or not" discussion is a complete red herring.<br /><br />The line "Only Snap Shots can hit Zooming Flyers and Gliding Flying Monstrous Creatures" is an assertion of the general rule that explains the rest of the answer.<br /><br />The rest of that answer gives examples of how that general rule is applied. We have to read the answer as a whole. And when we read it together with "Therefore, any attacks that use blast markers, templates, create a line of/area of effect or otherwise don’t roll to hit cannot target them" it seems clear that it isn't whether or not Njal's power is an attack that matters, what matters is the fact that Njal's power "otherwise [doesn't] roll to hit". 'Cause if it doesn't roll to hit, it isn't a snap shot. If it isn't a snap shot, it can't target fliers. <br /><br />Hope this helps!<br />GiantKillerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06241939423202106958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-44169343250751324752012-09-07T23:20:27.172-07:002012-09-07T23:20:27.172-07:00There is a suspicion of a point over to the army o...There is a suspicion of a point over to the army of the champion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-22099026571583761732012-09-07T21:12:47.407-07:002012-09-07T21:12:47.407-07:00Eiusdem generis; the list is not exclusive.
Purg...Eiusdem generis; the list is not exclusive. <br /><br />Purg is right. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-67796002030640166362012-09-07T18:10:28.622-07:002012-09-07T18:10:28.622-07:00For what it's worth, Vengeful Tornado (another...For what it's worth, Vengeful Tornado (another lord of tempest game effect) is defined as "a physical force attacking target" in SW FAQ. It may help clarify what chain lightning is :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-25226023421298594222012-09-07T17:57:37.546-07:002012-09-07T17:57:37.546-07:00...........
I hate you. :) ...........<br /><br />I hate you. :) Neil Gilstraphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07650727851487045304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-32988585495461095252012-09-07T15:57:22.147-07:002012-09-07T15:57:22.147-07:00If Objuration causes a "hit" it cannot b...If Objuration causes a "hit" it cannot be used against Flyers. Whether it's an attack or not is a Red Herring. The first sentence of the answer is the general ruling, the rest of the paragraph are examples of subsets of that ruling. Purgatushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04434824912752472018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-80241873334554904642012-09-07T15:55:12.535-07:002012-09-07T15:55:12.535-07:00The key sentence is actually this one:
"Only...The key sentence is actually this one:<br /><br />"Only Snap Shots can hit Zooming Flyers and Gliding<br />Flying Monstrous Creatures."<br /><br />This is an answer provided to a specific question, but it is a general statement. It is followed by specific consequences and examples of that general statement: "Therefore..." but those don't change the general statement, so the use of the word "attacks" in that sentence is a specific example of a subset of the general statement, but does not narrow the general statement. Anything that causes "hits" cannot affect a flier unless it can be snapshot. Purgatushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04434824912752472018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-22202111489117285642012-09-07T14:56:30.783-07:002012-09-07T14:56:30.783-07:00I totally second glanceonasix. You were a real ni...I totally second glanceonasix. You were a real nice guy to meet Mike. Your event was the best I have ever seen and it was not only extremely fun but very competetive. The people were almost all very nice and the judges were so professional to make one think they were getting paid for it. <br /><br /><br />I definitely am planning on coming next year and bringing some of my mates too. The Nova is well worth every penny. Also, the hotel was amazing. Their staff was good too, except the cash bar people sucked. <br /><br /><br />Thanks again Mike! Coming from a first timer, great job!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08614888556359605167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-3990291450039192612012-09-07T14:11:00.322-07:002012-09-07T14:11:00.322-07:00You and me both, brother (on the dead certain and ...You and me both, brother (on the dead certain and dead wrong more than once)!<br /><br />See above on the dangerous terrain. The short is because dangerous terrain does tell you how to completely resolve it without conflict. (Roll, wound, saves) only relying on a very little bit at the end (knowing to remove models with 0 wounds). It's an apples/oranges scenario because of that.<br /><br />Further, I'm not stating that everything is an attack but rather that everything has to be treated as an attack would be treated at some level to make the game work at all. <br /><br />Taking Imotekh as an example, all we know about his special ability is that it does S8 hits on side armor. From there, though, we have to go to vehicle rules to determine how to apply S8 to side armor and it says very clearly to use the "weapon's" strength. So, if we don't want to classify Imotekh's lightning as a Weapon in order to bypass this (admitedly hamfisted) FAQ ruling, then we're stuck. <br /><br />We all had to treat ti like an attack (read Weapon) prior to this FAQ ruling in order to have it do anything (wound or pen armor) to start with. Nothing has changed here, but now basically going to split hairs that somehow it's not a weapon for this purpose......... which I get because it is a hamfisted FAQ ruling.... but yeah.... kind of is what it is.<br /><br />Fact for me is, we don't know if they really "meant" EVERYTHING or not. Hard to tell by looking at that FAQ ruling. All it says is "attacks" and then a lot of hamfisted language about "everything else". Neil Gilstraphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07650727851487045304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-53193458547424570872012-09-07T13:23:42.079-07:002012-09-07T13:23:42.079-07:00Thanks again for the amazing event Mike, and you w...Thanks again for the amazing event Mike, and you were a joy to meet in person.<br /><br />(I vote psychoir if that matters ;) )<br /><br />ZachGlanceOnASixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11006730616566052631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-71826060241113899332012-09-07T12:58:49.924-07:002012-09-07T12:58:49.924-07:00I don't think so. A Flyer is not a Skimmer, Je...I don't think so. A Flyer is not a Skimmer, Jetbike, or Jump Infantry, nor does it deploy by Deep Strike, so it doesn't actually meet any of the criteria for Tempest's Wrath.Bodilesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18075982622472828512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-9147914179403957262012-09-07T12:54:03.256-07:002012-09-07T12:54:03.256-07:00Oh do I'm a dumb ass, please deleteOh do I'm a dumb ass, please deleteTimhttp://www.bugeatergames.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-21449072798555028372012-09-07T12:52:43.024-07:002012-09-07T12:52:43.024-07:00Um ....
Q: Does the Tempest’s Wrath psychic power...Um ....<br /><br />Q: Does the Tempest’s Wrath psychic power affect Flyers? (p37)<br />A: No.<br /><br />Doesn't that settle this?Timhttp://www.bugeatergames.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-16192441911670421252012-09-07T11:54:42.390-07:002012-09-07T11:54:42.390-07:00I don't think the situation is quite as dire a...I don't think the situation is quite as dire as all that, and in this specific case the FAQ author's specifically singled out "maelstroms, beams, and novas". Those are all Witchfire powers that do not roll to hit. So I think the intent is clear, but I have been very certain and very wrong more than once. ;) So we shall see.<br /><br />I am curious though, as to your answer to Mike's question about Dangerous Terrain tests. By your reasoning here it seems as though it either counts as an attack, which is hard to fathom, or it is impossible to resolve. Bodilesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18075982622472828512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-18299894419111012422012-09-07T11:46:29.359-07:002012-09-07T11:46:29.359-07:00Dangerous terrain test is not really a good exampl...Dangerous terrain test is not really a good example here at all because I'm not making a case that everything is an attack or weapon but that things get treated like that for the sake of being able to resolve them.<br /><br />A dangerous terrain test tells you fully how to resolve it from start to finish.<br /><br />Something that is not an attack or even a weapon has no such rules. You have to assume that it works just like a weapon or attack to even have it do anything at all. <br /><br />The counter-proof then is that if you assume that it cannot be treated just as an attack or weapon, then you are also stating that none of the other rules about how to resolve it will apply either. <br /><br />And really, we are arguing about if Njal destroying your stuff is Njal attacking you or not. I think it stands to reason just on that alone. :)<br /><br />Seriously, though, I'm not attached to it either, and I need to get back to work. :) I'm out! Good luck with it.<br /><br />Neil Gilstraphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07650727851487045304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-21466339461357257962012-09-07T11:42:16.683-07:002012-09-07T11:42:16.683-07:00I get that, I'm just not sure it's a well-...I get that, I'm just not sure it's a well-developed argument yet, perhaps on either part.<br /><br />The brushing sweep of "EVERYTHING IS AN ATTACK!111" isn't necessary, if you break down what is CLEARLY an attack. Firing a weapon is an attack, in fact, it's often referred to as such in the rules - shooting attacks. Swinging even a fist in close combat is referred to as a close combat ATTACK. Firing a witchfire of any sort is a psychic shooting ATTACK. Maledictions? Blessings? Dangerous Terrain Tests? Terrain and model-special-rule effects? Why do these have to be defined as attacks to prevent the rules from breaking?Mike Brandt; mvbrandt@gmailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818846784767602047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388453741033869908.post-43967505380988588102012-09-07T11:35:59.822-07:002012-09-07T11:35:59.822-07:00Ultimately, in the rules, there are only rules for...Ultimately, in the rules, there are only rules for how to roll to wound, roll for armor pen, etc. when not using "weapons" or "attacks", of some kind, repeatedly. So, basically, if it's not an attack, then there are no rules for how to resolve it unless there is a special section listed for "how to resolve stuff that isn't an attack". Basically, I'm not going to argue if it's absurd or not, but it will come to a point that if you want to split hairs about what is/is not an attack, weapon, effect, etc. that you will have to apply that distinction throughout the ruleset, and the rules will probably fall apart. :PNeil Gilstraphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07650727851487045304noreply@blogger.com